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LongTheta
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Posted: 2007-09-23 05:42

A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints (2006)

Directed by Dito Montriel (debut) and based on his (semi-)autobiographical book of the same title about growing up in Queens in the 1980's.

It starts very slowly and takes time to make its point, but once it does, I thought it was very powerful.


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RFMontraz
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Posted: 2007-09-24 14:17

Броненосец «Потёмкин»

My favourite film ever.


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urnash


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Posted: 2007-09-24 14:32
Brazil (the non-US version)

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riemann


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Posted: 2007-09-24 14:41
Interview with Steve Buscemi & Sienna Miller

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Posted: 2007-09-25 02:30
LT recommended:

A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints

Directed by Dito Montriel (2006, debut) and based on his (semi-)autobiographical book of the same title about growing up in Queens in the 1980's.


That one hit pretty close to home, ouch. I didn't grow up in Queens, but it was a lot like that. I actually lost sleep thinking about this movie and how it relates to my own sordid yoot.

I also kinda wanted to punch adult Dito for making his chums and his dad look less human than they probably really were in his movie. I mean, it probably went down something close to like he says, and I can relate to seeing your stuck pals from the hood that way. It was the little details of making his pal Antonio into someone inhuman even when he's laying some pipe with a young lady, wheras Dito's teen affairs were portarayed as all violin music and rosepetals ... that just seemed petty and wicked to me. Bad enough Dito became a millionaire rock star and movie maker while his pal was doing time ... Like the song says, nobody knows what it's like to be the bad man.

I think I'm going to go watch "Football Factory" on an endless loop so I don't go getting weepy about the fallen ones from me barrio. Sad

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RFMontraz
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Posted: 2007-09-25 12:05

I might add "Dies irae" by Carlo Teodoro Dreyer and "L'uomo di Aran" by Flaherty.

I expect DerFund and Granchio to get this. If not, I'm very disappointed.


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LongTheta
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Posted: 2007-09-25 13:55

for making his chums and his dad look less human than they probably really were in his movie.

In the copy that I have, right after the end of the final credits, there is a 45 sec footage of the real Monty (have you seen that?). based on that, I believe that the portrayal of Monty is quite accurate. I also don't think that it was meant to be "less human". I thought he was a very human father who just never wanted to let go of his only son.

Other than that, I agree with you that the film hit very close to home for me too. Some scenes were hypnotic in their subtlety and realism.


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LongTheta
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Posted: 2007-09-25 14:03

Focus (2001)

William H Macy and Laura Dern. Based on a Kafkaesque novel of the same title by Arthur Miller, it tells the story of a WASPish couple who are mistaken for Jews in the USA during WWII. At the very end ---- well, I don't want to spoil it for you, but I thought the ending was stunning.


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Posted: 2007-09-26 06:14
I didn't see that part with the real Monty somehow. I suppose dad was real enough; it was his chums I was more thinking of.

I guess I have thought about writing about figures of my youth as well, and couldn't think of a good way to show who my pals really were without being a dick about it. I mean, I love those guys, but they were pretty messed up. I'd more want to write about what great guys they were, rather than making their defining characteristics their mistakes. I made big mistakes too, but I was lucky. I figured Dito made big mistakes too. Running off to LA to become a punk rock star worked out pretty well for him, but it's not what I would call a wise career choice, any more than bonking a guy playing asteroids on the casaba was. Anyway, I am perhaps projecting my own junk onto what kind of a jerk I thought the writer was being. Looking a little deeper, most of 'em weren't real anyway. It was certainly a good movie.

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LongTheta
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Posted: 2007-09-26 06:58

I didn't see that part with the real Monty somehow.

He's an old man now. Weak. Apologetic. No longer 'the king', but he still talks about Antonio 'He's a good guy. I like that guy'. He's resigned that it's all over, for him and for Antonio. I think he identified with Antonio. He wanted to save him. There is something about this footage and certain other scenes. It's too real.


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Kutilya
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Posted: 2007-09-27 00:08


RFM have you seen Ladri di biciclette directed by Vittorio De Sica? If I recall correctly he started realism in cinema.


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Posted: 2007-09-27 13:25

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Posted: 2007-09-30 20:08

going to see this one in an hour. I'll let you know.


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LongTheta
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Posted: 2007-10-03 17:14

Little Fish (2005)

Very Australian (read 'so real, it's depressing') about a 32 year old ex heroin addict (Cate Blanchett) in Cabramatta, Sydney, trying to make a new start while surrounded by the financial and emotional skeletons of her past.

PS The rendition of "Flame Trees" by a children's choir in the finale is (to me) better than the original (1983) by Jimmy Barnes and Cold Chisel.


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Posted: 2007-10-06 13:18

the russian movie was ok by the way, but not great.  there were sort of two motifs:  the kid as a sort of real victim of his mom and uncle and the faux victim that he plays. bla bla.

anyway, last night I rented Fast Food Nation.  The Jungle, remixed.  Pretty sick, but I once worked with an operational research/industrial engineering dude from Berkeley who said pretty much all processed food is allowed to have a certain % of shit in it.  I think he was mostly referring to insect shit though, not cow shit.


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LongTheta
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Posted: 2007-10-12 16:44

Look both ways (2005)

Australian. We are surrounded by disaster, we flirt with death. Cancer, train crashes, car accidents, sharks, drowning, smoking, drinking, unprotected sex, cancer, cancer. Somehow we must live.

PS Justine Clarke is great.


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RFMontraz
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Posted: 2007-10-15 16:34
Out of curiosity what do you make of "Salo' o le 120 giornate di Sodoma" by Pasolini?

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Posted: 2007-10-15 17:39
The Counterfeiters (Die Fälscher). Playing in the UK right now.

The Chaos Army seems suspiciously well-organized.

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Posted: 2007-10-15 23:31
-- what do you make of "Salo'

Salo is pretty interesting. Wikipedia has a pretty good run down Salò . As the Wiki says, "Controversy over the film exists to this day, with many praising the film for its fearlessness and willingness to contemplate the unthinkable, while others condemn it roundly for being little more than a pretentious exploitation movie."

I suspect that the movie will either disjust you but you will be determined to stay to the end or it will disgust you and you will leave somewhere close to the middle.

I think the movie is a lot easier to handle if you view it in context to some of Pasolini's other movies. It is definietely a product of the 70's when it seemed that directors/producers just seem to have lot more balls.

LongTheta
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Posted: 2007-10-16 00:41

or it will disgust you and you will leave somewhere close to the middle.

That's me.


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Posted: 2007-10-18 23:19
I saw The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford in LA a couple of weeks ago. If your a fan of the western genre this is kind of atypical, relative to more recent releases, as it focus's far more on character development then the more standard shoot'em up style of most other mainstream westerns. If you happen to be in LA, NY, Austin or Chicago, I think its worth checking out. I haven't seen or heard anything about a nation wide release date at least stateside. I think its also playing in the UK but I am not positive.

Anyone else here seen it?

LongTheta
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Posted: 2007-10-20 09:59

Osama (2003)

This (I believe) is the first full length feature film from Afghanistan since the Taliban. The story of a 12-year-old girl who impersonates a boy to be able to work and save her family during the rule of the Taliban. Very impressive, very well made. All actors are amateur locals. The documentary on the making of the film and the portrait of Marina Golbahari who plays Osama is at least as moving as the film, and very well worth watching on its own.


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Posted: 2007-10-31 12:31

This film won't resonate very much with the (youngish) skew on NP.

I'm middle-aged and a father now (happy) and it is quite difficult to express to those without children the joy of having young‘ens.

The downside of that joyful experience is that psychologists have identified that among the most traumatic horrors human beings can suffer is to have your child die before you; it is a fear and an anguish worse than contemplating your own death (the Book of Job makes a lot of sense now). I can confirm that I can imagine nothing worse, including my own torture.

The film I rec is "The Sweet Hereafter" from 1997. The actors and setting are picture perfect. I did not think all that much of the film when I first saw it, but upon a recent reviewing found it to be the simultaneously most horrifying and painful but also beautiful film I've ever seen.

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Posted: 2007-10-31 23:42
Hey Bachelier, did you read the book? I have to say, that was one of the two flicks based on a good novel that I actually regarded as good as the novel ( The other one is The Name of the Rose)..I am only 29 with no kids, but I liked it in a way, but couldn't really enjoy it(just a too realistic scenario and too depressing to be entertaining)..so nothing for the funlovinmoviesessionletswatchrushhour2, but still a great movie(even for younger viewers)

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Posted: 2007-11-02 21:36
I saw it a few years ago when I was a father already. It's a good solid piece of work but I cannot say it rocked me.

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