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HitmanH


Total Posts: 462
Joined: Apr 2005
 
Posted: 2013-05-01 10:33
Looked through the archives but nothing quite fitting the bill came up.

This isn't for our dev tasks, but for other things - looking for somewhere between project management GANTT style and a glorified todo list.

Don't mind commercial, open source and hosting ourselves or hosted externally...

Any suggestions?

braincell


Total Posts: 59
Joined: Nov 2011
 
Posted: 2013-05-01 11:31
I've spent some time looking but mainly for dev. In the end, Microsoft Project and GanttProject were selected. There are others but it takes a bit of training and RTFMing to be able to use them. Haven't looked into really big corporate solutions though. I was surprised at how counter-intuitive some packages were, but each project is usually so spesific it's hard to find a great overall solution that is also easy to use,so I guess that's somewhat understandable.

NIP247


Total Posts: 544
Joined: Feb 2005
 
Posted: 2013-05-01 14:11
Basecamp.com has been mentioned before. If that is the right "level" for your needs, then also take a look at Asana, where ppl have been migrating from Basecamp lately.

Basecamp describes itself as "project management software for team collaboration", whereas Asana uses the tag "the shared task list for your team"

On your straddle, done on the puts, working the calls...

Hansi


Total Posts: 300
Joined: Mar 2010
 
Posted: 2013-05-01 19:38
+1 for Basecamp. Trello is pretty nice too if you are just looking for something low scale rather than complex-fit-all-needs type stuff.

ThomasJ02


Total Posts: 38
Joined: Feb 2009
 
Posted: 2013-05-03 18:49
Atlassian's JIRA is becoming a standard for many open-source projects since it's quite good and free if your project is non-commercial (and worth every penny IMHO if you have to pay for it). The rest of their suite is pretty good as well, although Confluence (their wiki) is missing some important features and some of their other offerings don't add a whole lot on top of open-source equivalents.

redandtheblue


Total Posts: 356
Joined: Aug 2007
 
Posted: 2013-05-03 21:34
I like trello for easy stuff as well.

Rashomon


Total Posts: 182
Joined: Mar 2011
 
Posted: 2018-08-03 21:19
I remembered this thread from long ago when I came across Fossil today: https://www.fossil-scm.org/index.html/doc/trunk/www/index.wiki


I don’t know if people would want to switch away from the more standard Mercurial, but Fossil does fit the bill: it has notes and tracking and a wiki embedded.

EspressoLover


Total Posts: 333
Joined: Jan 2015
 
Posted: 2018-08-03 21:57
Redmine's pretty underrated. At its core it's an issue tracker. But also includes support for calendars, Gantt, wikis, time tracking, git integration, todo lists and and forums. Plus a whole galaxy of plugins for pretty much anything else you'd need. It's fairly intuitive and simple to use interface, is rock solid, and has been around forever.

Biggest downside is that it's not as visually pretty as Asana or Trello. Looks like it'd be at home in Windows 95, no slick single-page web app, etc. (It still runs fast and feels responsive, plus doesn't have the typical Web 2.0 page size bloat). Also there's no hosted option, but there are pre-installed AWS images which easily run on a micro instance.

IMO the biggest problem with Asana is that it's overly "todo" oriented. There's no good workflow for the task that I have no firm plans for, but still want to write down if/when someone gets around to it. Like a known bug we've decided to live with for the time being. Or wishlist feature that sounds cool but is only worth implementing when resources are less constrained.

With an issue-tracker like Redmine, I can just spawn an issue and file it away. With a todo-list like Asana, the damn thing sits in your face everyday, and distracts you until you're compelled to get it over with. Business needs often mean prioritizing the 20% that needs to be done to reach 80% functionality, and using Asana/Trello this way just goes against the grain.

I've mostly settled into a polyglot philosophy here. Using different tools for different purposes seems to work pretty well, even though it does add another layer of challenges to keeping things organized. Trello as a type of visual board to help everyone keep the big picture in mind, Asana for active tasks and collaboration because it's a joy to use, and Redmine as a type of mailroom filing cabinet for long-term tracking.

IMO it's better to use the best tool suited for a particular workflow then keeping everything in the org under a unified system. If you need to mix together different systems, either for different purposes or different teams, it's worth it. You give up on having a single source of truth, but the bigger risk is having people not use any project management system at all because it doesn't feel natural.

Good questions outrank easy answers. -Paul Samuelson
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