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Nexis


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Posted: 2018-02-15 15:48
Does anybody have experience with the approach below? I am very skeptical regarding everything news-related and was wondering if somebody has already found some deficiencies with the approach.

https://www.hardikp.com/2017/08/18/deep-rnn-summary/

urnash


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Posted: 2018-03-27 20:47
Putting in this thread because it is also about DL: Rama Cont is a very smart guy but what do you think of this article ?

It claims that after feeding a DL network with lots of orderbook data that it can predict short-term stock movements. It even works well on stocks that weren't in the training.

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Alfa


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Posted: 2018-06-04 20:56
Its indeed a giant game-changer because its his first paper in this direction and the fact that it claims success in over 60% of the trades without fundamentals, and regular techniques for stocks that are not in the training seems like a giant breakthrough.

Cause it means there are universal laws of price formation applicable across assets.

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Maggette


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Posted: 2018-06-07 14:24
Well. Here is where the magic happens:
"We train the network to forecast the next price move from a vector of state variables,"

They won't get more specific than that. I really really hold Cont in a high regard. I still consider his book on pricing with jumps one of the best books on pricing in general. But I doubt that this stuff works for real.


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deeds


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Posted: 2018-06-07 20:44
Hi Alfa - would you elaborate on the support for universal laws of price formation across assets?

Getting price formation right seems less a risk than getting price deterioration wrong.

The events that undermine the strategy are likely to be more rare in training/validation set than confirming circumstances, but arrive nonetheless with disproportionate severity.

That 60% probability is not going to degrade gracefully.

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