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pj


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Posted: 2018-03-06 10:58
One of my acquaintances took out his life a few years ago.
Today I got a LinkedIn notification that he is celebrating
a job anniversary at the last place of employment.

What really bugs me out are five likes and two celebratory
messages from various people (not bots, I've checked).

The older I grow, the more I distrust the familiar doctrine that age brings wisdom Henry L. Mencken

deeds


Total Posts: 405
Joined: Dec 2008
 
Posted: 2018-03-06 12:58

sorry to hear about this kind of thing.

Wow.

_Social_ media.

Highlights how it's all puppetry.

goldorak


Total Posts: 1049
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Posted: 2018-03-06 13:54
I remember myself sending them an insult email in their early beginning and obtained my email to be blacklisted forever in their systems. I was receiving at least once a week an email asking me to join because whatever acquaintance had joined them and of course they had discretely slurped and instantly spammed all their contacts...

Anyway, you really need to be desperate to find a job to use such a tool, especially now it belongs to the company with the dumbest products in the world!

If you are not living on the edge you are taking up too much space.

chiral3
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Posted: 2018-03-06 16:12
Not sure what the value of linkedin has been. 95% of all jobs I hire of have taken (only changed jobs once in the last decade) have been from my network. Linkedin is really for recruiters and solicitations. At least they haven't whored out their functionality like FB and the rest. For the record I've been opposed to FB since day one and never had an account.

Nonius is Satoshi Nakamoto. 物の哀れ

Energetic
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Posted: 2018-03-06 18:41
Some recruiters do know how to find good candidates on LinkedIn. It's good for people who need not but would move given the right opportunity. For recruiters, it's a good platform to make an honest buck. All of that at he small cost of relinquishing last shreds of your privacy.

For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple and wrong. - H. L. Mencken

NIP247


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Posted: 2018-03-12 12:52
I am sorry for your loss and that reminder pj. I remember a few years ago when a former colleague died, the old Black and Orange Terminal quickly changed the status to "Deceased". I found that a little upsetting as well. Not sure how it should be dealt with. Facebook is introducing a Digital Will if I'm not mistaken.

As a business, I understand that the little HH side revenues the Terminal was earning having the full profile ( work history and specialty ) of its users completely fell off a cliff with the advent of LinkedIn. It didn't wither away, it just disappeared more or less overnight. So clearly it seems to fulfill some value in our industry.

c3 and goldorak, you are too senior and/or too independent to need the kind of services that LinkedIn provides. Everyone who needs to know about you already does, and anyone you need to know or know about, you presumably already know. However, I've seen people from different industries and different levels of seniority getting recruited through LinkedIn and have been quite surprised. A European 4bn listed company found an electro-engineer working at my brother's IoT startup and moved him from this developing country to the EU, arranging visa and probably language classes as well and it all happened thanks to LinkedIn. It's strange because as good as LinkedIn is at finding/suggesting people you may know, the jobs matching engine seems to be absolutely useless to me.

More relevant now, the GDPR regulation coming into force in the EU will make good old cold calling/emailing illegal or at least very difficult. LinkedIn is an opt-in service that by its nature is a pre-approved CRM/reach-out platform. Not sure Microsoft thought of that when they bought it but my fear here is that there's a real risk of oligopoly in means of communication.

On your straddle, done on the puts, working the calls...

chiral3
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Posted: 2018-03-12 15:13
Even the junior ppl I hire are through the network. The s/n ratio is just too low through other channels. It sucks up to much time.

I can see how LinkedIn could be useful for crossing over industries. That makes sense.

Nonius is Satoshi Nakamoto. 物の哀れ

Osiris2


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Joined: Sep 2017
 
Posted: 2018-03-12 18:28
As long as there is something close to balanced supply/demand for jobs in your area, you can rely on your professional and personal network and it probably works out fine ... ignoring the issue of loading up one one type of background at the expense of diversity - that's a different conversation.
However, if you are facing a serious shortage of talent, and have positions going unfilled for long periods, linkedin can be useful.

tabris


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Posted: 2018-03-14 05:28
I think FB and Linked both have a form or something that flags up account of deceased people for deletion. I am not sure what the process is but maybe you can do that?

Dilbert: Why does it seem as though I am the only honest guy on earth? Dogbert: Your type tends not to reproduce.

pj


Total Posts: 3415
Joined: Jun 2004
 
Posted: 2018-03-14 06:55
Indeed there is...
Thank you, Tabris!
And what to do about likes? Signal them as well?

The older I grow, the more I distrust the familiar doctrine that age brings wisdom Henry L. Mencken
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