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HitmanH


Total Posts: 486
Joined: Apr 2005
 
Posted: 2019-09-04 23:58
With you Rod - interesting approach to joining a new community / forum...

And also - MM deriving those profits for a return on a fund that size.

If only... Or bring on the return of 2008...

Jurassic


Total Posts: 254
Joined: Mar 2018
 
Posted: 2019-09-05 08:50
@HitmanH how can you tell that it cant just be MMing? why cant it derive those profits on a fund that size?

Maggette


Total Posts: 1147
Joined: Jun 2007
 
Posted: 2019-09-05 11:21
That is because HitmanH actually has a rough idea what he is talking about!:)

There might be some MMs elements in their portfolio of strategies....but did you ever ask yourself the question why all the players that openly do NOTHING ELSE THAN MM (like XTX, Optiver, All Options, large parts of Jane Street) are not hedge funds but prop companies?

Because these strategies are highly profitable but don't scale well....hence the size of any of Rentechs funds is far to big to have an majority of work done in MM! As an MM you don't want a lot of investors to share your profit with.

Ich kam hierher und sah dich und deine Leute lächeln, und sagte mir: Maggette, scheiss auf den small talk, lass lieber deine Fäuste sprechen...

gaj


Total Posts: 48
Joined: Apr 2018
 
Posted: 2019-09-05 18:16
If you combine all those MMs, would the combined AUM still be much smaller than Rentec's? My rough guess is no -- I've heard of some HFTs generating 9 to 10 figure profits. So maybe Rentec is just as smart as all the other MMs combined?
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