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Posted: 2012-12-05 20:30
Hey all,

First post on here, have been reading for a while. I'm currently wrapping up my PhD at a top school in the US (physics/information theory) and am planning to move back to Europe once done, preferably London or Paris. Any recommendations regarding firms that are hiring at the moment or head hunters I should consider getting in touch with? I am mostly interested in strategist, trading or developer roles with a strong computational focus, but definitely open to more traditional pricing/modeling gigs. I have some previous quant finance experience (BB fixed income/commodities). Sorry for the broad question, not really familiar with the quant landscape in Europe.

thanks

Nonius
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Posted: 2012-12-06 00:14
Rule number one. French engineering degrees are much better than Ivy League PhDs, according to a lot of people in Europe. Mostly French people. Rule number 2. You're probably better off doing highfalutin quant trading in the States, but if you must choose Europe I'd suggest CFM in Paris or maybe a few shops that have representatives here on NP ans which are located in LONDON. They will be in touch.

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Posted: 2012-12-06 03:41
Thanks. I'd like to go back to Europe for private reasons, though staying here is an option if nothing else works out. Which are some of the better known shops in London? Which ones have representatives on NP?

Pike


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Posted: 2012-12-08 13:19
There are some very good firms in Europe but it definitely depends on what you are looking for.

Business where the money comes from clients (mainly): investment bank, brokerage firms...

Business where the money comes from proprietary trading: hedge funds,prop trading unit in banks, small prop firms...

There are many different jobs in these firms that can be interesting given your background.
The atmospheres/culturs will vary a lot as well: the working environment at Goldman has little in common what a firm like Renaissance offers...

Last advice, avoid Paris: direct competition with all the phrench from Ulm/Polytechnique + the few firms there are underpaying their staff since they are captive + in ppl minds if you work in finance, you are an a**hole...

Hope it helps.

leftic


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Posted: 2012-12-08 15:48
Add an email to your profile.

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Posted: 2012-12-08 17:27
thanks guys. added an email address to my profile. If anyone can share some names of good quant prop shops in London, that'd be much appreciated. I am familiar with most of the big CTAs/HFs in London but don't know any prop shops.

Jurassic


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Posted: 2019-07-14 20:29
" Rule number 2. You're probably better off doing highfalutin quant trading in the States"

@Nonius why is this?

pj


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Posted: 2019-07-15 04:18
@Jurassic.
Why do you think that Nonius’s reply is actual seven years later?

The older I grow, the more I distrust the familiar doctrine that age brings wisdom Henry L. Mencken

Jurassic


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Posted: 2019-07-15 07:56
@pj i got told the same thing myself recently

nikol


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Posted: 2019-07-15 20:12
@Jurassic

> i got told the same thing myself recently

What if AI did the same? Would it imply infinite loop?

... What is a man
If his chief good and market of his time
Be but to sleep and feed? (c)

nikol


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Posted: 2019-08-06 18:32
It looks like "Quantitative Analyst" has a clear (and cheaper) substitution - "Data Scientist".

QA-DS spread has converged.







source:
https://www.itjobswatch.co.uk/contracts/uk/quantitative%20analyst.do

... What is a man
If his chief good and market of his time
Be but to sleep and feed? (c)

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