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urnash


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Posted: 2014-09-30 22:20
Haven't seen this mentioned on NP yet: this link is one of a couple posted by someone who has researched the microwave networks used between London & Frankfurt. He looked for info on where the towers are, who uses them, etc. Couple more articles on his website. Have quickly browsed through them and seems legit (well, he quotes themis trading somewhere, but the quality of the rest of the posting makes up for that Smiley).

Can one of the French speeking NP-es have a look at his books? Writing something from the point of view of a trading algo is an interesting idea.

Jim Simmons is finalizing a c. 1000 page tome on Renaissance trading methods and is looking for a publisher. He was turned down by Wiley. They said he's taxing the attention span of their readers -- LongTheta

Baltazar


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Posted: 2014-10-01 08:22
I want to read that book but when I tried to order it the website was down.
I shall try again.

Qui fait le malin tombe dans le ravin

radikal


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Posted: 2014-10-01 16:35
I'm pretty curious too -- I enjoyed the blog posts.

There are no surprising facts, only models that are surprised by facts

rukarin


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Posted: 2014-10-01 21:33
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Maggette


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Posted: 2014-10-01 22:54
Well, IMHO it is kind of an overraction from your side.

I mean, take a look at the automotive industry. I have goood connections to R&D engineers there. There are hordes of journalists from car magazines and the yellow press hunting for the test drivers and their Erlkönige.

And sabotage? You already said: guys in the industry already have an good idea about the infrastructure. So if you want to act against your competition I don't think you need the blog.

Maybe some people from "occupy wall street" like organizations get "inspiration". Then well: like everybody else: you have to protect your infrastructure.

Ich kam hierher und sah dich und deine Leute lächeln, und sagte mir: Maggette, scheiss auf den small talk, lass lieber deine Fäuste sprechen...

Nonius
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Posted: 2014-10-01 22:56

"I want to read that book but when I tried to order it the website was down."
Ironic.

Chiral is Tyler Durden

Baltazar


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Posted: 2014-10-02 15:03
indeed,
he updated his blog.

Rukarin: if it is a rehash, he clearly fails to mention it. Apart from that I find it interesting.

Qui fait le malin tombe dans le ravin

sniperinmahwah


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Posted: 2014-10-02 16:23
Hi there,
I am sniperinmahwah. I won't answer to all the comments but just to clarify:
1) These posts are the result of a 3-month investigation. I worked alone, I did everything alone (I am book publisher first, do you think I would copy someone else's work? That would be piracy…)
2) I I talked with a lot of people from the industry, I even talked a lot with the radio regulators. Do you think I could give all this data with a single source only?
3) 99% of the data is public. I just put the infos on a map, period. No voyeurism.
4) All the competitors, everyone in the industry know where the competitors are, no secret here
5) Occupy WS or other groups don't need my data to exist
6) That's weird, the Zones sensible website is working, I don't know why you could not access to it
7) I am in touch with Brad Katsuyama, I could ask Bard the name of his daughter but I don't care, we have more interesting discussions than that.
Cheers,
Al.

HitmanH


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Posted: 2014-10-02 16:36
Al - great article - I'm in the space (HFT - although not microwaves) - content is excellent - keep up the good work

HitmanH


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Posted: 2014-10-02 16:36
Al - great article - I'm in the space (HFT - although not microwaves) - content is excellent - keep up the good work

HitmanH


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Posted: 2014-10-02 16:36
Al - great article - I'm in the space (HFT - although not microwaves) - content is excellent - keep up the good work

rukarin


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Posted: 2014-10-02 16:38
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sniperinmahwah


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Posted: 2014-10-02 16:46
Intro : idem, not much time
1) Call Stéphane and ask him what he thinks about my work. Ask him if he thinks that "I plagiarized him". He will laugh, mate! I even found data some competitors didn't have. And I gave them the data. Transparency is good.
2) I made a mistake in the Houtem tower post: there was NO "No Trepassing" sign (my copy editor changed that). No "No trepassing" sign on the site (I have all the photos to prove it), all rooms open. But don't worry: it was just a fun moment. I'll correct that in the post.
3) TY for your comments HitmanH. Much appreciated. I tried to be very serious and accurate.
Al.

Baltazar


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Posted: 2014-10-02 16:47
@Snippermahwah:
The comment about the web site was not a rent, it was maybe three months ago, when you published 5 I think. I actually emailed you about that and you answered kindly, that was more anecdotal than anything else.

Qui fait le malin tombe dans le ravin

sniperinmahwah


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Posted: 2014-10-02 16:49
Yeah, sorry for that, we migrated the website and had some problems with. I hope you have found the book ;)

rukarin


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Posted: 2014-10-02 17:01
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sniperinmahwah


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Posted: 2014-10-02 17:28
Karrie,

I don't understand the "in very poor taste". Stéphane and I concluded that all the information should be public and available in "open data" file formats. No voyeurism here. My research is mainly anthropological, and the microwaves networks are a good start to think about how finance has to dominate the nature.

As for my visit in Houtem: yes, I was in a private place. But I would never have jumped the railings, I'm not like that, it happens the door were open. No big deal…

Best,

Al.

rukarin


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Posted: 2014-10-02 23:01
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AndyM


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Posted: 2014-10-03 11:52
Rukarin, are you going to get all knotted up because people cross the road against the red man? The offence, if any, is perfectly trivial. The guy took some (great) pictures of a microwave tower; who could object? Certainly if the owners were so concerned, they'd build a fence / employ some security. You're hijacking the thread with your pettifogging.

Sniper, nice work; illegitimi non carborundum.

I used to be disgusted; now I try to be amused...

AndyM


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Posted: 2014-10-03 11:55
"l - great article - I'm in the space (HFT - although not microwaves) - content is excellent - keep up the good work"
"l - great article - I'm in the space (HFT - although not microwaves) - content is excellent - keep up the good work"
"l - great article - I'm in the space (HFT - although not microwaves) - content is excellent - keep up the good work"

These HFT guys are incorrigible Big Smile

I used to be disgusted; now I try to be amused...

zerohair


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Posted: 2014-10-05 00:14
@sinperinmawah... i'm in the hft space too, also not in microwaves (yet!), and found your blog last month. awesome, nice work!

@rurakrin. don't be a spoiled sport. we were coming for you anyway. sniper just saved us a few months work. more actually. as i doubt we'd have been cold calling you guys and hitting up your engineers for specs (nice culture btw! haha). maybe i need to hire some anthropologists!

in all seriousness, sniper's passion for this and rigorousness is really neat. rare to see an outsider write about our industry with such low level specificity, intelligence, low bias, and most importantly, humor. i think he does a great job of presenting the info for whatever the readers predilections may be, proletarians and capitalists alike (with a nice dose of pissing off the monopolists!). a hallmark of good writing.

ps. @sniper, please ask katsuyama about the paradox of his broker preferencing, and make note of any squirming you might detect!

rukarin


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Posted: 2014-10-05 01:09
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sniperinmahwah


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Posted: 2014-10-06 07:05
©Rukarin

>The doors are open at DRW's, Jump's or Optiver's offices too, with neither "No Trespassing" signs
>nor railings to jump over. Why don't you walk right in?

I know. I already visited KCG, etc.; in November I visit Optiver and IMC, as soon as I have time for a trip to the US I'll be very very happy to meet everybody, Vigilant first. I don't talk about the dozen of interviews I had with HF traders…

> Sneaking into someone's private property, just because it was momentarily unattended, is an act of
> cowardice and unlawful espionage. I don't find it a laughing matter - or "no big deal" as you brush
> it off - because I could easily have been the victim myself.

My father was a geologist, for 30 years he worked on a 100km2 map, I can't imagine how many private proprietaries he went on – I remember him talking about some farmers who tried to shoot him with shotguns! If geologists would have to ask for each field they worked on, geology would not exist. Science versus privacy – more complex than that…

>It's disgusting that you're masquerading your ethical standards as "anthropology".

Much appreciated.

> I'm all for bringing transparency to this space. Al's friend (not him) has already done a stellar job
> of that, and I would have been fine with his posts if not for the criminal trespassing.

I confess: I am a smooth criminal. But do you think my friend showed me his map, seriously? I had to be really crafty

@AndyM: Thank you

@zerohair:

>@rurakrin. don't be a spoiled sport. we were coming for you anyway. sniper just saved us a few months
> work. more actually. as i doubt we'd have been cold calling you guys and hitting up your engineers for
>specs (nice culture btw! haha). maybe i need to hire some anthropologists!

My postal address is public, send me a check!. Good luck. Btw, Matt Trudeau @ IEX has studied cultural anthropology.

> in all seriousness, sniper's passion for this and rigorousness is really neat. rare to see an outsider write
> about our industry with such low level specificity, intelligence, low bias, and most importantly, humor. i
> think he does a great job of presenting the info for whatever the readers predilections may be,
> proletarians and capitalists alike (with a nice dose of pissing off the monopolists!). a hallmark of good
> writing.

Much appreciated – no irony this time. Very happy to read/receive these positive comments from the industry. Very important to me.

> ps. @sniper, please ask katsuyama about the paradox of his broker preferencing,
> and make note of any squirming you might detect!

A lot of things to say about IEX. Didn't have the time to work again on them. But I'll try to ask ;)

jslade


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Posted: 2014-10-06 07:29
In all seriousness, the broker preference thing is super shady for all the noise they're making about "the little guy." I don't mind a man making a dollar however he can, but the whole holly roller act by Katsuyama and company really harshes my 'do.

That said, I like your photos, and am amused that Rurakin is so mad at you for taking them. U mad bro?

"Learning, n. The kind of ignorance distinguishing the studious."

sniperinmahwah


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Posted: 2014-10-06 15:43
In the meantime: http://sniperinmahwah.wordpress.com/2014/10/06/hft-in-my-backyard-more-on-piracy// It's about trees…
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