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Total Posts: 116
Joined: Jun 2004
Posted: 2019-09-27 14:02
Nice to see some old friends back again here!


Total Posts: 116
Joined: Jun 2004
Posted: 2019-09-27 14:02
sorry: double post!


Total Posts: 1175
Joined: Jun 2005
Posted: 2019-10-01 09:55
NP slowly becomes arena of characters driven by AI


Total Posts: 3530
Joined: Jun 2004
Posted: 2019-10-01 12:54
> NP slowly becomes arena of characters driven by AI

So, you think that, for example, Jurrasic is an algo? Cool

The older I grow, the more I distrust the familiar doctrine that age brings wisdom Henry L. Mencken


Total Posts: 287
Joined: Oct 2004
Posted: 2019-10-01 14:25
Well there's a correlation between his posts and linkedin job postings so could well be some NLP

Et meme si ce n'est pas vrai, il faut croire en l'histoire ancienne


Total Posts: 1175
Joined: Jun 2005
Posted: 2019-10-01 15:30

Given that you spotted my hidden suggestion is it true? Or better

"What is probability that Jurassic is AI-character given that nikol and pj guess she is?"


Total Posts: 367
Joined: Mar 2018
Posted: 2019-10-01 20:18
Yeah, it will be difficult for me to make a physical representation in order to attend NY drinks anytime soon


Total Posts: 1175
Joined: Jun 2005
Posted: 2019-10-01 21:08
Discussing NY drinks while looking for job in City is very costly, unless...


Total Posts: 1175
Joined: Jun 2005
Posted: 2019-10-01 22:05

yes, makes sense.


Total Posts: 1175
Joined: Jun 2005
Posted: 2020-05-25 09:09
My browser reports that NP lost its signature (expire?) or something more innocent, so it warns me about attacks. It labelled now as "Not secure" connection.

Something to fix?


Total Posts: 355
Joined: Feb 2014
Posted: 2020-05-25 13:17

someone should put Cloudflare in front of this website to make SSL encryption and also as a bonus it will eliminate the bots with the captcha challenge, but I don't know who supposed to be managing this.

First Commander of the USS Enterprise


Total Posts: 446
Joined: Jan 2015
Posted: 2020-05-25 16:29
There's a subreddit now at /r/nuclearphynance.

It's inactive now, but in case the forum hosting fails at some point in the near future, we can use it as an ark. Figure eventually it can also be a funnel to bring young blood into the community.

Good questions outrank easy answers. -Paul Samuelson


Total Posts: 1659
Joined: Jun 2004
Posted: 2020-05-25 17:57
"subreddit now at /r/nuclearphynance"

It might be the right answer. Except, of course, there will be a lot of random people "stopping by."

'Progress just means bad things happen faster.’


Total Posts: 355
Joined: Feb 2014
Posted: 2020-05-25 19:52
>> It might be the right answer. Except, of course, there will be a lot of random people "stopping by."

i prefer random people than bots

First Commander of the USS Enterprise


Total Posts: 1175
Joined: Jun 2005
Posted: 2020-05-26 09:06
> forum hosting fails

Database of wisdom, pain and plain knowledge will vanish.
Alexandria's Library is in flame.
World gets destroyed.
Corona is upon us.


Total Posts: 40
Joined: Jul 2008
Posted: 2020-05-26 21:02
I quite liked this corner of the internet. I am on Reddit as well but that is ... Different

Founding Member

Total Posts: 5163
Joined: Mar 2004
Posted: 2020-05-26 23:11
Hey guys, some of you may know this, but I'll rehash for those that don't. Some people had a falling out with the other forum host (over his purple hair!!! hahaha) what's probably 16 years ago. FDAX set NP up as a result. For the record I wasn't banned, the other knuckleheads were, but if I had to choose a side I'd choose the banned. That was 16 years ago and it was silly (although the blown cambridge chair and the purple hair wasn't hahaha). We were young, in our 20's, or at least some of us were, and brash. FDAX really did all the work. Some of us helped out with policing and whatnot (that's why you still see people and bots banned, because we still look after some of that), and we discussed early formats and rules, but it was all FDAX's work. For a couple of reasons, some professional and some personal, he doesn't visit much anymore. He's busy, he's gotten on, we all have. But, because he has the keys, keeping things up-to-date is really on him and, after two decades of us bs'ing with each other, he's moved on to bigger and better things. Not to say he may not carve some time out to spruce things up and update certificates, etc., but I wouldn't bet on it. Regardless, my thanks to FDAX to hosting for even this long.

Many of us knew this day was coming, or that it was possible that one day the website may cease to exist. A number of us know each other personally, either in meatspace, or linkedin, or whatever. I think it makes sense to get emails, use a subreddit, etc.

The people on this original phorum came together during the third generation of market innovations; the fourth, by my count, being the one that shifted everything forever. It was a fun time. We weren't first, it wasn't the golden age, but we came away with some original stories, got to read about ourselves in the news, and other shit we wont tell our children. It was a fun time. Change is inevitable, but the underlying interests and skills that unite us are timeless and are the reason we can still bullshit on this phorum. In the early days of this phorum I could have never conceived we'd be talking about crypto or that my trading partners would be thinking about marketing structured products.

Anyway, it was the early 2000's and we had this loose group in primarily NY and London. They really came out of the random walkers from the other place. I spent more time in NY than London but we had people from both sides out, all the time. A large group would meet for drinks and, by 10 or 11, a subgroup would be having a second dinner until the wee hours. More often than not I woke up at another NPers place and I went back to work in the same clothes. If I did that today I would be ruined for days. Early GARP exams, books, secret societies, jobs, marriages, hedge funds, pregnancy scares, rivalries, ..., all came from these early meetings over good food, great wine, and better conversation. TonyC was always generous, and owned various restaurants at certain times, and we'd end up with a crowd of academics, researchers, and traders talking into the night. Always fun when NNT was there (errrr) telling Engle his Nobel was shit and telling Mehring his book was toilet paper. It was a great time in NY and London. That's when NP was born: this big falling out and the birth of NP as basically a loud "fuck you!" to the losers. It worked. We won. They sucked, they were lame, and we felt ;ike the smartest people with the most mobility came to the other side. The first several years were awesome. As someone mentioned, I think Mark J., RIP buddy, NP was brash, and didn't take stupid comments or questions, compared to the other place. What most people didn't know about the other place is that it only existed to promote books and courses, a source of money. It was a joke. Those who can, do; those who can't, teach... etc. That was the idea.

So I am 20 years older than when I met these people. Some have retired (early!), some have passed away, some have ghosted the community, but many are still around, running things now. They have kids, wives, ex wives, ex careers, ..., and NP isn't the same for them. I love the "new comers". There's some wicked smart people posting here. I think that's valuable and we should try to preserve the network, but the network we know as "NP" is truly owned by that great and busy cat we know as FDAX.

Nonius is Satoshi Nakamoto. 物の哀れ


Total Posts: 448
Joined: May 2012
Posted: 2020-05-29 12:15
Thanks chiral for your post, it's always great to hear a bit of background from the founders :)

I came much later here and I think in fact I never had a chance to say thanks to FDAX for creating Nuclear Phynance.

Through the years it did help a lot to roam around here and ask questions about a lot of stuff while building the launch of my own fund...

So, I just wanted to say it now:

THANK YOU FDAX! (for creating NP)


Total Posts: 1175
Joined: Jun 2005
Posted: 2020-05-29 14:31
I join - many thanks to FDAX for maintaining this place. Apparently, he found the time and fixed the problem.

I started to watch NP nearly from the very beginning and quickly abandoned "that other place". Apparently, I know some people around, but only with Nonius had bumped Chug Beer


Total Posts: 1251
Joined: Jun 2007
Posted: 2020-05-29 18:25
Of course I will join and say:
thanks to the grumpy cat!

A lot of stuff he wrote had an quite real impact on my career. Same for some other members (jslade, chiral3, pj, martingale, cheng, AndyM, baltazar, kr!!!! fuck I miss that dude..., tradenator, dgn2,Patrik, TonyC, Strange)

And to all the old schoolers and to the "wicked smart new comers"....please check the mail adress you post in your profile once in a while, so we can connect via the instagram of career whores (aka LinkedIn).
If the page tgoes down I don't want to waste my time stalking some web alter ego to find out who the genius behind "EspressoLover" actually is.

The grumpy cat once wrote "in trading anonymity is king". So I don't think anybody here would take the wish to stay anonymous personally.

Ich kam hierher und sah dich und deine Leute lächeln, und sagte mir: Maggette, scheiss auf den small talk, lass lieber deine Fäuste sprechen...


Total Posts: 2870
Joined: Feb 2005
Posted: 2020-05-31 10:44
Thanks chiral. I didn't know that TonyC owned some restaurants now and then but it explains a bit. Since I am not as active anymore here as I used to be (times change...) and I am also not that active on LinkedIn, if someone wants to get in touch just shoot me a mail. This one is different from my LinkedIn for obvious reasons, otherwise I wouldn't have been able to post some stuff I posted back then... and it was a good thing to do so given the amount of swarm intelligence here.

"He's man, he's a kid / Wanna bang with you / Headbanging man" (Grave Digger, Headbanging Man)


Total Posts: 124
Joined: Dec 2007
Posted: 2020-06-01 08:22
Thanks chiral for sketching the historical setting. I've always wondered what actually happened between the guys here and "that other place", which I've left as well since at some point it was basically dictated by two or three characters. Wish I'd been here more often and thanks to the founders of NP!

No vanna, no cry


Total Posts: 149
Joined: Jun 2004
Posted: 2020-06-01 13:39
thanks for bringing back those fond memories!

hit and run

Nuclear Energy Trader

Total Posts: 1347
Joined: May 2004
Posted: 2020-06-09 13:28
just to be clear, TonyC did not own restaurants. He was an LP in one restaurant, and he owned the inventory in some of the wine cellars of a number of other restaurants.

Io non sono un esperto di vino. Io solo sono un ubriacone.
(My great-grandfather would be ashamed of my Sicilian, I'm sure the order, declension, and tense, are completely wrong)

flaneur/boulevardier/remittance man/energy trader

Founding Member

Total Posts: 5163
Joined: Mar 2004
Posted: 2020-06-09 14:03
That was a time where everyone "owned" a few restaurants in manhattan. It was a good time.

Nonius is Satoshi Nakamoto. 物の哀れ
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