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Posted: 2020-05-07 20:31
About 15y ago FDAXHunter or AndyM or kr wrote about an applicant including their Mensa membership on their CV/resumé. It was ridiculed then. I ridicule it now (just had one such applicant in).

Then I thought: what if someone wrote they were in the Triple 9s?

I'd be marginally impressed by that inclusion despite its lack of direct applicability to any role.

NB. If you haven't guessed over 10y+ I'm British and some of my posts are a tad tongue in cheek - as you'd expect from a low EQ triple niner.

On a laager on a hill. A long way from Avondale.


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Posted: 2020-05-07 20:55
What-if is a stress scenario

... What is a man
If his chief good and market of his time
Be but to sleep and feed? (c)

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Posted: 2020-05-20 00:06
high IQ is important and obviously, usually, a necessary but definitely not a sufficient condition for success (at least in my work).

There are geniuses who are good at attention to detail and who can't innovate...those types are useless for certain roles. Also, there are geniuses who are ultra creative but after they sketch a 40k foot view of an idea they can't be bothered to get into the details. those types are also useless for certain roles. then there's other characteristics such as drive/passion/gravitas, etc.

Triple Nines or Mensa scores wouldn't be the feature that would necessarily tip the balance for me. Most of our staff have Phds from T1 schools but one of the best hires in terms of where it counts- innovation and productivity- has been a grad student working in Montreal and who goes to one of the Unis there. Is that T1? don't know. Is he in Mensa or Triple Nines? Hmmm, don't know.

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Posted: 2020-05-20 01:54
It sets up an interesting "how many golf balls in a bus" style interview question:
"Estimate the probability that you have the lowest IQ of all applicants for this role"


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Posted: 2020-05-20 11:46
@Nonius Ive seen a number of PhDs from Cambridge in engineering type fields and was genuinely surprised at how basic the work looked. I honestly thought a 1st/2nd year maths student could have done it easily.

However, I have seen a few in topology/analysis type fields from other not so sought after unis that look fiendishly difficult


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Posted: 2020-05-20 17:40
Aubrey de Grey recently found a new lower bound for the chromatic number of the plane. He is not even a professional mathematician. His finding looks surprisingly easy after you have read it; even a high-school student could come up with such a "graph". Still, a very significant finding in the graph theory -- the previous bound was up to Nelson-Hadwiger in 1950.

The problem with topology PhDs is that it takes a good amount of "wisdom" to write clean and "to the point" mathematical texts (and not mathematical). Topology is one of the most abstract fields so writing a clean proof in topology is extremely hard. That is why many of those texts look so complicated.


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Posted: 2020-05-20 19:19
the aubrey de grey story is inspiring but i dont think his paper looks basic

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Posted: 2020-05-20 20:10
First guy I ever fired had his PhD in PDEs. I fired him because he couldn't solve the PDEs. I needed him to focus on certain valuation problems but they were different than the type he focused on for his doctorate, so he was lost. Since then there's been a whole slew of people that could solve the hardest and most obscure brain teasers in interviews then start hammering plywood and sawing screws when they start working and now,..., they're not working. Grit and creativity and plasticity and having a learning mindset are not measured in Stanford–Binet. I had enough intelligence tests when I was young (and they couldn't figure out why I was slacking off and ditching school and wanted to figure out if I was defective) to know that I could join one of these clubs.
It never occurred to me to bother. These clubs are all identity and virtue signaling orgies. Just like the local country club people mostly get together, get drunk, and try and fuck each other. I say this with out knowing from experience; rather, extrapolating from several similar stories I've heard.

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Posted: 2020-05-20 20:25
how are people unable to solve the pdes in finance?


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Posted: 2020-07-21 11:02
I have the same concern. I cannot decide which of the two I should choose. It's like making me choose between Gacha Life and Forge of Empires.

But in the end, I chose the FOE because it provided me the tips and guides. Anyway, here's the free download on pc link for Gacha Life.

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